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A Blonde A Brunette and a Mic
Episode 101 Sunday Sesh with us girls - Hustle Culture, Infidelity Dilemmas, and Pineapple
Can hustle culture truly lead to success, or is it just a modern-day myth? Join us as we kick off the 101st episode of "A Blonde, A Brunette and A Mic" with a spirited discussion exploring the fine line between ambition and personal life. Michele brings warmth from her cozy ski lodge retreat, while Julee shares tales from the holidays in Austin. We chat on the generational shift in work-life balance, sparked by insight from Julee's son, Andrew, as we dissect the rise of side hustles and question if relentless working is overrated. We unpack the mindset of hustle culture and reflect on our own workaholic tendencies, offering a fresh perspective on what it truly means to work hard today.
Navigating the murky waters of rumor mills and friendships, we contemplate the ethical dilemmas surrounding infidelity. Should you inform someone about their partner's potential betrayal? With personal stories, we bring to light the intricacies of loyalty, discretion, and the often unseen dynamics of relationships. As we weigh the emotional impact of rumors, we emphasize the need for thoughtful consideration before spreading potentially damaging gossip. Wrapping up on a lighter note, join us in exploring our quirky pineapple preferences while encouraging you to connect with us on social media. Whether you’re a pineapple enthusiast or simply curious about our playful banter, this episode promises reflection, laughter, and maybe a new take on your favorite fruit!
Hey everybody. This is Michelle and this is Julie. Welcome to a blonde, a brunette and a mic podcast. What is our podcast all about, you ask?
Speaker 2:Well, we're 250 something.
Speaker 1:Women with life experience and oh bloody to say, which is exactly what we're gonna do right now. Happy Sunday.
Speaker 2:Jules, happy Sunday to you too. We're having a little Sunday sesh today, aren't we?
Speaker 1:We are. I came up here to have coffee with Julie and just chitty chat a little bit before we recorded and we ended up talking about a whole bunch of different things and I told her I was like we should be recording right now. Yeah, it's like a little Sunday sesh. We got going on. So that's what we're going to do today.
Speaker 2:Wonderful, Wonderful. Well, just to kind of wrap this up, we are going into our we're in 2025. Yeah, and this is going to be our 101st episode. I guess you could say In three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we have a. You know our technical difficulties. I'm going to just tell on us we are. We've been doing this for two seasons. You'd think we'd figure it out by now, but at any rate, we are going into this and we had a guest that we were going to record today and now we're going to record with her next week. She had a little more burst than we were.
Speaker 1:It was kind of funny. It's all part of the journey, man, that we were. It was all part of the journey man, that's how I look at it too, you know just like life.
Speaker 2:So we're starting the new year off right with Michelle going skiing even though she doesn't ski.
Speaker 2:I was bunny lodging it. She was bunny lodging. That's exactly what I would be doing. I'd be sitting up there with my little hot toddy and like reading a book or something, and just waiting for know them to come off the slopes and be all cold. Yep, that's right. They're like where you at. I'm like up by the fire. Yeah, that's a smart place to be. Yeah, I was in austin, as we know, because we recorded on new year's eve and just said hey to everybody and it was 80 degrees there and I I could not believe I was sitting at a pool I know that's, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:New Year's Eve. So that's not the case anymore. It's not like that. But we have, as we mentioned on our last episode, this new little thing we're adding into the end, which is called what the hell Ring that bell.
Speaker 1:I got my bell. Look at this cute little bell.
Speaker 2:Let me just show An antique bell.
Speaker 1:It's like it's an antique bell from Grand Rapids, Minnesota. I got it from my grandma.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:So anyway, just kind of a fun little thing to add to the end.
Speaker 1:But in our Sunday sesh today we just had a few things that we were going about was giving hustle culture too much credit, and do we do that? So when Julie brought that topic up, I was like, wait, let's talk about hustle culture First of all. What is hustle culture? That's kind of a tongue twister. Say it 10 times fast. What is hustle culture, Jules? That's kind of a tongue twister. Say it 10 times fast. But what is hustle culture, Jules?
Speaker 2:So basically, it's another way of saying the mindset of being a workaholic in a lot of ways. So when you talk hustle, we're talking about people that are, you know, working so hard to get ahead. They're putting in all the hours, those kinds of jobs that you know that you feel like you need to do that in order to get ahead. Nordstrom, nordstrom oh, I was going to say attorneys. You know, they do those.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's that too, yeah.
Speaker 2:Nordstrom. Honestly, it's like no shade. Okay, best in peace, loved working at Nordstrom? Yeah, I got to tell you the whole family balance bullshit was just that bullshit we were not family, we were not balanced, we were very driven. But I think too, michelle, part of that is the generation we come from.
Speaker 2:Sure, worked tons of hours, I liked it and now I look at it totally different as I've gotten older and when you look at my oldest, for example, when he moved over to Austin he's like I'll take a pay cut if I have to to have more balance, to be able to work at home part of the time. And I'm just looking and I'm going, wow, that is a very different shift from Well.
Speaker 1:if there's anything they learned from our generation, it's probably that Well.
Speaker 2:I think you're absolutely right, because we didn't get to be into a place where we were really enjoying a lot of the things. I mean, remember, it's like we're going from one thing to the next, the next. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying this is the state of what it was and you know that superwoman syndrome that I felt like I definitely possessed, like I felt like I could do everything, which in reality, you're doing almost everything, and you're doing a lot of it half-assed right, let's just be real right so what are your thoughts on hustle culture now?
Speaker 1:well, when I heard the term hustle culture, I immediately thought of the side hustle. Okay, because that's what everything is about now. So many people have that side hustle, so there's influencers that do that as a side hustle. There's a lot of different side hustling things that people do and my question is okay, back to Andrew's point. So those people that give up something so they have more balance, but then financially they're doing the side hustle thing, and so there we are again, being a workaholic, no matter what, whether we're backing off in the real-time job and doing the hide hustle, side hustle. I like hide hustle.
Speaker 2:I wonder, what that is.
Speaker 1:Anyways, either way, it's consuming and the bottom line it's because of how expensive it is to live life now in general, Okay, so let's go back to that for a second, because I just visited my very sweet friend in Tampa.
Speaker 2:I told you about a very different perspective on what we need. He lives more simply, I would say, and just he's got all his stuff that he needs, but he's not one that has got all this extra extravagance. Right so there's that right? Yeah, Because what I think is what I need is different than what someone else thinks is what they need, and so that what I need costs more money, obviously, than you know, like what he needed costs more money. It's just a different way of looking at things.
Speaker 1:Sure, and there is living within your means, right. So yeah, bottom line, I think, as we're talking, I'm realizing it all comes down to choices as well, which I know it's not like I'm just realizing that, but you know it's just like the couple that chooses to live simply so that don't cringe Jules, but so that the wife can stay home with the kids and do the wife and mother things. Can the husband stay home with the kids? Either or vice versa?
Speaker 2:Okay, so I know people that.
Speaker 1:Do that too. So and you know. Whatever, whoever the breadwinner is, it doesn't really matter, I'm not cringing about it Completely A little bit.
Speaker 2:No, it's just I. I just look at it differently, probably because I never would have been the mom that would have stayed home full time, yeah, and I was when I was home I would just spend money like I would decorate and I would do all these different things that I didn't have time to do. Pardon me, um, but for the kids I think that probably, you know, they got the best of quote both worlds. I don't know there's ways to look at it, but our part of the country if you don't have a side hustle.
Speaker 2:It's probably a little bit unusual in some respects, and I kind of dig side hustles Now, the main hustle that we were talking about with your regular job. Obviously, we all want to be successful with what we do. We want to be able to earn a good living. We want to be able to, you know, be able to live the way we want to live. None of that's changed in my mind, but how I go about doing it is a little bit different. Yeah, and it's not. It's because the environment's different. Being self-employed, if you're not a hustler, you you know, you're not going to do okay.
Speaker 2:That's the bottom line.
Speaker 1:And I think, personalities. Uh, to be an entrepreneur and own your own business, you have to be a hustler anyways, so you already have that mentality, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then in terms of side hustles, like we've got, like this is a side hustle, but it's not something that we've done for money.
Speaker 1:I guess it's more of a hobby.
Speaker 2:But like the Airbnbs that I have the investment properties. That's a total side hustle.
Speaker 1:Is stripping on a pole a side hustle? Yeah, something you do on the weekends. Working on a pole Make a bank.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would not be me. Trust me, I know, but you get my drift. Yes, but mean.
Speaker 1:But I know there's. I know people have done notary loan signings as a side hustle. I actually licensed in that myself during the pandemic when I wasn't working. I was going to explore that but I didn't. I got certified and I did all that stuff but it wasn't. It was not my jam, so I didn't do it. And you have to love or really like or enjoy if you're going to be putting a good portion of your time into doing stuff like that. You have to enjoy what it is 100% have to have to enjoy it, I mean true, Otherwise what is the?
Speaker 1:point. But you can, there's money to be made there. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:But even like Isaac, you know, it's like he was outside that kid's a hustler. He was outside hustling, he was doing his you know delivery thing and he was doing that. Was it Uber Eats?
Speaker 1:or whatever.
Speaker 2:A lot of different things, just whatever he needed to do yeah, and I think that, with our economy and the way things are, a lot of people are impacted.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people that aren't impacted, yeah no-transcript and if you side hustle knock yourself out, I'm all about it, love it.
Speaker 2:I. I think it's the coolest thing ever, uh. But I personally feel like if it's something you're going to do, you want to do something that you enjoy, you know, if it's going to take your time. That is something you enjoy. Ditto dat, Ditto dat. Another way of saying that is copy-paste. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ditto, dat, copy-paste. Another question. Yeah, let's just slide right into another topic here. What about and we've talked about this in other episodes, but I wanted to bring it up again because it's been a while Should you tell your friend if their partner is cheating? Are you asking me? I'm asking you?
Speaker 2:I absolutely, 100% believe we should be telling our friends Should, so that means you would, yes, I would. Should, so that means you would, yes, I would. Now, there's caveats to that, obviously, because you know, especially if they're married, you've got situations where you don't guy code, whatever you want to call it. It's like if, michelle, if you, if I was with somebody and you knew that person was being unfaithful or dishonest or whatever you know with me and you didn't tell me, I would feel so betrayed. I, yeah, you know. I would tell you. Yeah, I know. But I'm just saying it's like a lot of people are like it's not my business.
Speaker 1:I'm staying out of it. You know, blah, blah, blah, and it's like you know, there's people, somebody that you know or are acquainted with. It may be an acquaintance, and you see them out to dinner with somebody that is not their spouse or significant other, right, right, of course it's going to make you go, hmm, but based on the fact that it's an acquaintance and you don't know what that situation is, that instance, I would keep my mouth shut. That's not my business to be saying anything to anybody. Saying anything to anybody, like I shouldn't be saying hey, well, I might with you, yeah, but you know, hey, jules, but as far as you know, talking about it with multiple people say, hey, you know what I saw, so-and-so isn't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, cause. Then that's just like no good. That's no good, that is being like the wrong kind of catalyst and that's just doesn't.
Speaker 2:You know they might be in an open relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I mean. If you got to know the circumstances, this relationship or something that's OK with whomever their person is.
Speaker 2:You just don't know, Right? I mean, it's not anything that we would have privileged information about Right.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I get what you're saying. I have been in this situation before, unfortunately, but I was not given direct feedback about anything. It was more kind of like hey, did you notice? And, of course, when you're in love L-O-V-E, l-u-v, whatever you call it you think you're in love, you find ways to justify a lot of things. Or you, and you don't even realize you're doing it Right, you want to give people the benefit of the doubt, you're too trusting, blah, blah, blah, all those things. Well, had my dear friend just come out and said I think this is happening. These are the reasons why I might have looked at it a little bit differently. Yeah, but in that respect I didn't, I didn't. I just kind of I felt like she was trying to rain on my parade a little bit.
Speaker 1:That's how it felt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally right, and she was like I'm just going to be there for her to catch her, you know from you and I but you know that was come to me and pass along a rumor to me that she had heard and she wasn't a person who I would um was. She was not a gossiper at all she was not a person who wanted to create drama or anything.
Speaker 2:That was just not her jam. And there are parts of me that believed her honestly, parts of me that were kind of, because there were all these other little weird things that were happening. Yeah, whether it was true or not, I don't even know, and it's so old it doesn't really matter at this point, but it did impact our she and I, it impacted our friendship and it definitely impacted, you know, uh, my marriage. I would say, how did she.
Speaker 1:I'm curious now, how did she present it?
Speaker 2:because I'm did it was more kind of like she wanted to make me aware of these things that she was hearing. So there was all this. Uh, that's respectable though, isn't it? I'm sorry, that's respectable though, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, I don't think she was being disrespectful at all like just saying, because I I mean that's a whole another instance as you're talking about this, um, you know, if somebody like I was saying how, you just don't talk about it, right, but if you are a person that did hear something, because somebody shared information with you as and it is a rumor, right, I mean that's hard to, unless unless it's a close friend, because I'm I'm just like you not telling me that's what I mean like if somebody did say oh, I heard, I saw this or I heard people talking about and this is what they're saying, I'd be like, I mean, I would bring that information to you and say apparently this is flying around the rumor handle right and just want you to know so in me, instead of like trying to maybe handle it more objectively, much more emotional
Speaker 2:I think, but now I handled it and again it doesn't the.
Speaker 2:The end result isn't really as important at this point as what happened and how it happened so I uh, I think it affected my relationship with her because it affected her relationship with him, and it was like I had to make a choice. You know, my family or my friends, it was really what it kind of boiled down to yeah, and she just, you know, to this day I regret a lot of that, but anyway, that's a whole other topic. I'm just getting into this to tell you that it can create problems too, yeah, especially if it's not handled appropriately. You also have people that don't want to know. Right, you know what it's like. What they don't know isn't going to hurt them. They don't want to know.
Speaker 1:Let me just put my rose colored glasses on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and you know that is a whole nother bag of tricks. If you ask me, you know if you're in a relationship, I don't know. And then there's the whole thing about again open relationships or understandings people may have that you are obviously not privileged to, so are you creating more drama? So I would say anything that I would bring forward to a friend or to someone who's very dear to me would have to be something that I felt like I could back what I was saying. Probably not a rumor, Because I don't want to be responsible for creating anger or anything else. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, or divisiveness, because what will happen is, you know, if they're, especially if they're married, or something like that.
Speaker 1:This is really making me think this one, this particular one, the rumor one, because I'm thinking if somebody like shared information, that was rumors going around about you, I would want you to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's like the second third. It's like I heard this from so and so who got this from so and so you know I know that's.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean. I mean you got to take that for what it is and as well where the origin came from.
Speaker 2:I didn't uh necessarily uh have good feelings about yeah, like they were purposely trying, yeah, yeah I feel like there were vindictive people, so there was that too, yeah, so a lot of question marks I know it was ugly.
Speaker 2:It was weird, weird and ugly but I guess to my it doesn't really change how I look at it I still think that it's important that you you gotta have the back of your friends or your family on situations like that. Yeah, uh, if it's something that impacts their decision making, how their life is lived, you know that's part of being a friend, sure, so that's my two cents on that one. Yeah, are we ringing that bell? We're already ringing the bell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are ringing that bell because I am dying to know is it okay to have pineapple on pizza?
Speaker 2:I guess it depends what your activities are going to be later, right? No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm not. We all know about pineapple, right? You add pineapple to your regimen. You add pineapple, pineapple juice to your regimen, guys and gals. Makes everything, everything a little bit sweeter, yeah, a little bit sweeter. So put some pineapple on that pizza.
Speaker 2:So we're in agreement on the pineapple on the pizza thing I'm in agreement on pineapple in general, I don't like pineapple on my pizza.
Speaker 1:I mean, do you? Yeah, I don't. I don't like pineapple on pizza. I don't think pineapple belongs on pizza. It's just not a thing for me. So, hawaiian, whatever, I don't like that. But she's a big advocate of pineapple. Yes, I am a big advocate of consuming pineapple.
Speaker 2:Yes, so you know what they have. Just so you know. Low sugar pineapple juice.
Speaker 1:Are we talking about the vajayjay again? Hey, I didn't say anything about that, I'm just sitting here thinking I'm like the last ring the bell was had to do with that, and here we are again. We're back into the vajayjays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, With the bell we're back into very sweet jayjays. I guess. On that note.
Speaker 1:Michelle, yeah, on that note, make sure to eat your pineapple and follow us on all the socials as well, because that's just as sweet. Yes, oh my God.
Speaker 2:But yeah, youtube.
Speaker 1:Instagram TikTok, if it's still going to be around.
Speaker 2:I don't know what that's all about, but my, my daughter told me that, starting January 21st, it's going to be banned. Yeah, that's this is. I don't know if it's going to be banned or not, but I said you know what? Don't worry about it, there's stipulations surrounding it.
Speaker 1:Come our way, yeah so, whatever you were Spotify, uh, youtube, instagram, facebook we're out on all the socials, everywhere you guys love to hear from you.
Speaker 2:Pineapple or no pineapple? Yeah, give it a try. Some people have a preference. Prove us wrong. Some people don't know that they have a preference yet, but they might find out sooner or later. Do it, I don't know. Don't know what you don't know. I mean you are, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't know, don't know what you don't know. I mean, you are, you know, yeah, what you eat, what you eat. Okay, all right, on that note, ciao, see ya.